Curse

**cosyfiep** · Feb 08, 2008, 12:34 AM // 00:34

its not that we want the pigs we gave away back its more than we did something NICE by giving them away...and now we find that if we werent nice and hoarded them we could get something for them...as has been said the moral is to not be nice, and hoard everything.
I am not unhappy that I gave a bunch of my pigs away...and if the 'surprise' is something I neither want nor can get due to my generosity then I will probably just dedicate the rest of my sty and pitch'em in the trash.

Cacheelma · Feb 08, 2008, 12:46 AM // 00:46

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

plus, i was pointing at the part that ANet could have cut&paste the event and flooded the market with simple pigs again

To show the world that they're LAZY and use "Year of the pig" celebration in the "Year of the rat"? You think this is how a game company ensures the FUTURE OF THEIR COMPANY?

I don't think so.

I dare Anet to stop with every single event from now on and just focus on GW2, see how this community will DIE painfully (And tainted GW2 indefinitely).

Mr. Undisclosed · Feb 08, 2008, 12:51 AM // 00:51

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

I dare Anet to stop with every single event from now on and just focus on GW2, see how this community will DIE painfully (And tainted GW2 indefinitely).

This is my thoughts as well. True they don't have to do events but that would really piss off the community and as a business they want to keep us happy so we con tinue to buy their future products.

Sir Seifus Halbred · Feb 08, 2008, 12:56 AM // 00:56

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

All those people we gave them to are selling them for...get this... 100k! 100K! WTF?

They may be a few trying to sell for 100k, but do you honestly think many if any will pay that much? The average price i see for the pig is 5-7k and 15-25k if the person is lucky.

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Originally Posted by Rahja the Thief

No, I am complaining because I gave a lot of these away out of the kindness of my heart only to now have to buy one from someone for some outrageous price so I can have one again for this collector. I don't regret giving them away, but I do regret that the people I gave them too are now becoming obscenely rich off of a simple gift from the heart. I give, and then get more taken away. I think you missed the point. ANET shouldn't make the mini pig a requirement to get the new mini from the collector. It isn't fair to those that gave away their mini pigs to those that didn't have one.

Ummm yes you are complaining...

Why did you make this thread then?

PinoyRurik · Feb 08, 2008, 01:03 AM // 01:03

A.net should just reset the GW games back to the way they were.. then leave us all alone......

GreatBabai · Feb 08, 2008, 01:12 AM // 01:12

Considiring huge amount of pigs released last year, i think that new mysterious mini will be not so rare one. Something like 50.000-100,000 pets or even more... ( Suppose that there was ~500.000-1000.000 pigs released initially. Some was destroyed, some still keeped in collections. So even if only 100.000-200.000 of them will be converted at a 5x rate, we ll get at least 20.000 of them, and probably much more)
So after all dust settles and novelty wears off it will be in price range of Destroyer/Ceratadon/Asura ets.
Imo celesial rat will be much rarer because anet will definitely screw drop rate.

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I give away all my pigs (~10) long ago and don't even bother to re-buy them now. It will be much easier to just trade that pet after weekend for a modest sum of cash.

JeniM · Feb 08, 2008, 01:54 AM // 01:54

It's not a case of how rare or valuable it is, it's a simple case that the people that gave them away for free are now screwed out of a new mini or 25k+

Snow Bunny · Feb 08, 2008, 01:55 AM // 01:55

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Originally Posted by JeniM

Ah great maths, and from what i've seen of your posts on Guru you strike me as the sort of person that would never give anything without ulterior motive

They are great maths.

Malice is correct.

To be quite honest, who the hell cares if you gave them away.
Be content with the knowledge that at the time, you were charitable, and as a result, in this instance the better person for that charity.

I mean, seriously people. I was generally pleased with the Guild Wars players who were generous at the time, and was rather impressed. Now this whole thread and the mindset behind it is pathetic.

Mind you, I gave away around 20 pigs and have not purchased any since

Cacheelma · Feb 08, 2008, 02:05 AM // 02:05

Well if you don't care about minis one way or another, you have nothing to gain from this thread (and the whole mini-"were you selfish enough last year"-pet thing).

Angelica · Feb 08, 2008, 03:01 AM // 03:01

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Originally Posted by Zinger314

This is odd. Very odd. Can a gaming company really lack this much foresight?

Even moreso with this 2-12 thing. As said, who would seriously keep more than one?

^^ Agree!
I kept one because I like the little thing and gave away all the others ... free.
I do not regret doing so but I find the rate of exchange a bit weird.

Plus I really don't care "much" about mimi-pets!

/Angelica

Kerwyn Nasilan · Feb 08, 2008, 03:08 AM // 03:08

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Originally Posted by JeniM

because we feel we deserve something back for all we gave big ----ing deal

Can i also mention i believe the OP is the creator of the GW Oktoberfest, the biggest ingame give away there is made by the community

I think Malice is aware of that, Malice knows alot more than you think

I guess I'll have to farm and try to buy 2 more mini pigs, 3 seems like a good amount. Personally I think it should be 1 pig for new mini but well, I'm not A-net. Gaile said it would not be that rare of a pet so I'm hoping on that. Also what does everybody think the "Special" end item is. My vote is on everlasting rat tonic

. Or a new skill Raten Blessing

EDIT: "there is made"? GRAMMARTIME!

katherinetheblood · Feb 08, 2008, 03:24 AM // 03:24

Here is my question, if everyone is so against selling mini pigs, why are the prices going up? If you love your mini pig, don't give in. Anet will learn its lesson. Its like treating a spoiled 2 year old, if you dont give them what it wants, it will scream for a while then learn who is in charge. Gamers don't HAVE to do every feature. Soon enough...they will see it doesn't work and burn it. Then there will be a flood of mini rats and piggies and the 5 shall be pleased. I just cant wait for 4 years from now, Year of the Dragon shall be wonderful. *smiles*

Legion Magnus · Feb 08, 2008, 03:53 AM // 03:53

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Originally Posted by Witchblade

reminds me.. looks like i can delete my jade wind orbs for good?

(and what about those victory tokens?)

I still have 4 stacks of JWOs on a char myself.

Note, they dropped during the Dragon Festival (July 2006) not the Canthan New year, so who knows ...

But I would be willing to trade all of them for SOMEONE's mini polar bear

Celestial_Kitsune · Feb 08, 2008, 06:38 AM // 06:38

Here is a suggestion:

Make either one collector with several possible trades or three collectors each specializing either in pigs, lunar or victory tokens.

Special Collector

Item: "Celestial Surprise"
Collecting:
- "More than two, less than a dozen" (three would be nice) Minipigs
- 250 Lunar Tokens
- 250 Victory Tokens

tmakinen · Feb 08, 2008, 08:48 AM // 08:48

You'll get in average one pig out of each stack of Lunar Fortunes (year of the pig). Yesterday I spied a herd of pigs and stacks of fortunes that I had pushed off to a mule account and properly forgotten. After burning the stacks I'm now in possession of 14 critters and thus covered my derriere concerning the collector but I still think that the way this pig-sink was implemented was less than optimal, even technically ineffective because the originally fairly localized ensemble has since then dispersed among the larger population and depending on the exact amount needed for a trade not too many people may be able to meet it.

Abnaxus · Feb 08, 2008, 08:56 AM // 08:56

Hey Rajah, the greatest mistake we do is thinking that A.net can deal sensibly and rationally with the community.

This is an epic fail, A.net behave towards their customers like this:

A.net order "Dance!" and we all have to dance, "Sit down!" and we all have to sit down, "Run in circle!" and we all have to.

This happened for the BMP: "Buy now from the shop or you'll never get it later!" and people spent 30$ even for something useless to get it.
Like dogs in a circus.
(Just to clarify my position, I strongly fought to have the BMP sold separately since the beginning, and despite this I will never buy it because I cannot reward A.net for the horrible way they managed the whole thing).

Some weeks ago I proposed to create some new titles obtainable fighting somewhere, so that those trying to achieve GWAMM could have some challenging title, and not spend endless hours farming margoyles like idiots to get sweet, booze and crap like these.
Yay, they introduced a new title, and guess which one? Another farming title LOL!

Every time we expect that A.net does something sensible and reasonable, we fail.

But if you stop and think, you'll realize that they behave towards their customers in the correct way.

Why? Because sensible people don't play videogames.
So, A.net -correctly- can't be expected to address the requests of sensible people.

Madness? .... This is A.NEEEEEEET!!!

Lord Sojar · Feb 08, 2008, 09:26 AM // 09:26

To all those that think I posted this because I am greedy...

Yes, I am SOOO greedy.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Ascal...asquerade_Ball

Albeit I didn't host this one, I created it.
http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Oktoberfest

CLEARLY greed is my main issue. Go crawl in some hole you naysayers. This thread was created because some of the really generous people who were not greedy and were nothing but kind and giving are really getting boned here. We don't even have an opportunity to get one. I am impoverished since Oktoberfest ended. I used what little wealth I had left and donated it to LaZy for the event. I managed to get a few friends to help me get some armors and stuff in EotN. Now they are broke as well. This little setup is somehow fair? I am not one to QQ on this forum unless something is very wrong, and something is VERY WRONG with this setup.

Numa Pompilius · Feb 08, 2008, 10:43 AM // 10:43

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Originally Posted by Cacheelma

And tainted GW2 indefinitely.

They already have. I've already decided not to pre-order GW2 due to decisions in GW, and no, it's got nothing to do with any minipets like the pig (very minor annoyance that anet is price-fixing the minipig; mainly it is hard to avoid the suspicion they're doing this on behalf of someone) or the polar bear (no annoyance at all), or even how ANet handles events (great, except for the information to the players). EDIT: Oh and seriously - complaining about the BMP? You, like me, got something for free for buying GW:EN. Now people have to pay $10 for the same thing. If THEY, the people who have to pay, were complaining, then I'd understand it, but complaining about getting something for free?!

No, the reason I wont be preordering is to do with changing the whole philosophy of GW from "skill over time" to "time over skill". I don't like it, and if it, as I suspect, is indicative of GW2, then I guess it's time for me to go back to playing FPS's.

Friday · Feb 08, 2008, 11:07 AM // 11:07

Rajah - those of us who know you, and know where you stand on this game, understand exactly what you are saying.

BUT there a a lot of people here who troll for the hell of it just to create dissension, there are those who trash anyone who happens to have a different opinion to theirs, there are those that are self-proclaimed "experts' on every aspect of GW and will slag anyone who does not agree with them, there are those who like to simply flame others in a negative way as it makes them feel better about themselves, and then of course you get the fanbois who will hear no wrong about Arena Net.

Unfortunately the above listed people seem to be in the majority now, and any sensible discussion of topics like this always degenerate into flaming or QQing. As some love to say here, we have to just "deal with it".

/salute to someone who truly does have the essence of the game and the community at heart.

Shanaeri Rynale · Feb 08, 2008, 11:25 AM // 11:25

Although I can only speak for my alliance, we did'nt allow thousands of people to get pigs last year because we ever expected anything back or in return so the requirement for multiple pigs for this new pet does'nt feel like a slap in the face.

I would also hope other guilds and alliances who helped people get pigs last year feel the same.

I would hope there is some other way of getting pigs/rats and I trust Anet would'nt be as silly as to exclude the players who had no chance of ever getting enough pigs to join in. We'll see.